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Old 20-07-2005, 04:34 PM   #1
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Default Weighing the BA XR8........

Hi guys,

weighed the beast today on the Hume public weighbridge behind my factory,

BA XR8 ute
completely empty, fuel light on, no spare, no jack

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Thats about all.........

it weighed in at 1820kg exactly, minus me.

The spare and towbar and jack would EASY go an extra 30kgs, but i race without them.

I also take the decklid off, which would make it 1780 odd. I weigh in at 90, making 1870.

with the fuel in, its an easy 1900 plus.

damn these things are heavy........................

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Old 20-07-2005, 04:39 PM   #2
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Damn that's heavy!!! Than there's the 12.94 you've run, those BOSS motors really are an impressive unit.

Does it cost money to weigh a car on a weighbridge? I'm interested to know what my car actually weighs.
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Old 20-07-2005, 04:42 PM   #3
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damn these things are heavy........................
So, with the new lightweight engine internals to produce a higher stepping unit, the difference in weight isn't going to be much?
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Old 20-07-2005, 04:48 PM   #4
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Damn that's heavy!!! Than there's the 12.94 you've run, those BOSS motors really are an impressive unit.

Does it cost money to weigh a car on a weighbridge? I'm interested to know what my car actually weighs.
yeah, 16 bucks.
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So, with the new lightweight engine internals to produce a higher stepping unit, the difference in weight isn't going to be much?
Hey wolfie, these conrods look like asparagus sticks,

the new rods i'll be using will actually be heavier.
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Old 20-07-2005, 05:15 PM   #6
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Yes heavy, but look at the time the Boss is pulling now, it show's there is some real power there. I'd like to see a LS1 with similar weight????.
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Old 20-07-2005, 05:53 PM   #7
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yeah, 16 bucks.
That sucks, i got 24 hour access to a private RTA approved bridge for free. Might weigh mine with one of the fork's tomorrow night and see what it weighs.
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Old 20-07-2005, 06:38 PM   #8
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Interesting Chris, confirms what we had thought they weigh'd at the track, 1900+

There wouldnt be much difference between auto/manual?

You could also try a weighbridge at the local tip or quarry weigh-in station...but they probably wouldnt like it with nothing on board!
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Where abouts is the weighbridge Chris, would like to see how a sedan weighs up!!!
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BA XR8 UTE is the heavest Falcon ever made, the full rails allow this to become a one ton ute with a suspension change.
We best find some horse jockeys for drivers.
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The weigh bridge is just before Kmart on the Hume Hwy.
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Old 20-07-2005, 08:00 PM   #11
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Ahh that one, when is it open from. When ever i go past it looks closed.....
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Old 20-07-2005, 08:00 PM   #12
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Yeah, it has a bit of weight allright.
I weighed my XD351 the other day, and is 1520kg, without me.
Lighter than i thought it was going to be.
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I have weighed mine on the Boral weigh bridge where i work, and it goes about 2050kg with me and a full tank of fuel
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I have weighed mine on the Boral weigh bridge where i work, and it goes about 2050kg with me and a full tank of fuel
What about when Judy is in the back?
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BA XR8 UTE is the heavest Falcon ever made, the full rails allow this to become a one ton ute with a suspension change.
We best find some horse jockeys for drivers.
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The weigh bridge is just before Kmart on the Hume Hwy.
I used the one behind me on northbourne rd.

I have always wanted to run on a weight break, even against an opened LS1, just to see the difference.

Mark, what would be the difference between a 1 tonne tray and the tub with liner??
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Old 20-07-2005, 11:57 PM   #16
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When your car goes in for scrutineering on the left lane there is a weigh bridge there...At WSID...
Check the weight !!!
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I used the one behind me on northbourne rd.

I have always wanted to run on a weight break, even against an opened LS1, just to see the difference.

Mark, what would be the difference between a 1 tonne tray and the tub with liner??
I have been told the rear of the ute (tub) if you unbolt it, you only save 140 kilo's in weight.
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the one ton tray, i am not sure what it weighs, there made of alloy.
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i think i may go weigh mine, i have a huge assed aftermarket amp and speakers with me driving mine would be the heaviest getting around.
think i should be banned from the pizza shop after Calder.:eclipsee_
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Where abouts is the weighbridge Chris, would like to see how a sedan weighs up!!!
I had mine on the local tip weigh bridge, it came in at 1.86 tonne. I was about 80kg and I had half a tank of juice in it. Taking say 110kg(me and the juice) off that would bring it back to about 1750, that's Ford's estimation spot on.
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even quoted in MOTOR magazine, it is only 50kgs heavier than a clubsport
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Quoted weight of XR8 sedan manual is around 1805kg. Utes are supposed to be around 50 kg heavier.
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Quoted weight of XR8 sedan manual is around 1805kg. Utes are supposed to be around 50 kg heavier.

Mark 1 sedans were quoted as 1750kg when they came out.
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The wieghts given by Ford & Holden are dry, thats no oil, coolant, petrol etc:
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Sound about right Mark, mine's pretty spot on, was that is.
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regardless of dry weight and and wet weight, its only 50kgs lighter.
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kiwi, you a funny lil kiw :

bring the clubby, i'll bring my car, slab of green cans.

You name the weighbridge, I'll be there.

You have a better chance of a night with kyle thruster than of being within 100kg's of a REAL mans car dude!!
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Here is a heads up review between the 2 utes. includes weight.
Holden's SS ute tips the scales @ 1624kg
http://www.webwombat.com.au/motoring.../xrt_utes.htm/
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If anyone in the eastern suburbs of melbourne wants to weigh their car, they can just go to Kilsyth pick-a-part, don't go into the pick-a-part entrance though, go to the next one on the right you can just drive on and it'll display the weight on a screen, if you want a printout it costs though. It's free we have tested two cars now.
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Had my car on the weigh bridge on Northbourne Rd today.

My car is a BA XR8 Sedan - with about 20lts in the tank. Still had spare and jack onboard - minus me.

1760 Tare weight. Its lighter than i tought it would be. Then looked at my rego sticker and is had a 1747 Tare. So its fairly consistant.

Not to race this beast.
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Was just thinking about everyones weights the other day, have weighed my with tailgate minus spare and jack plus about 20lts of fuel weighs 1777kg without tailgate weighs 1746kg I think the utes are about 60kg heavier than the sedans.
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Yeah after the weigh in went to the servo and put in 48lts, so full tanks. So estimates of 20lts work out right.

I will race my car without the spare and jack so thats minus roughly 15kg
Full tank of fuel add 40kg
Plus my weight 135kg


Works out to be 1920kg........


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