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Old 31-10-2011, 01:23 PM   #91
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Nothing about the birth of a legend, the GT Falcon.

No mention of the greatest car in Australian muscle car history, the GTHO phase 3, nothing. The fastest 4 door production car in the world at the time.

No mention of Dick Johnson and "The Rock", another legend born at Bathurst.

Very disappointing from that respect.

Well I did my bit for the blue oval, but at no time did I say my car was supercharged, but the old girl scrubbed up well, some great camera shots, I was pretty pleased.
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Old 31-10-2011, 01:27 PM   #92
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They said that when Ford pulled out of racing Moffat was without a job, not long after they showed the Moffat/Bond 1-2, 3 or 4 years later. No mention that he continued racing Fords, just that he no longer had a job.

And then they said that Moffat joining Brock to race a Commodore in Europe was Ford and Holden joining forces. No mention of Moffat having been racing Mazdas for a few years prior with no racing for Ford at all. Just a dumb link to make. Was quite a common thing of the series to paint Ford in a bad light while making Holden look like gods.

The media continuing to portray Holden as Australia's own sickens me. Ford were mentioned as the big evil american corporation while Holden was not american at all.
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Old 31-10-2011, 01:29 PM   #93
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I seen most of the 2ed one last night it was good but for the stupid wog talking so much bull, but typical. .
The 3 rd and last one is on tonight.
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Old 31-10-2011, 01:30 PM   #94
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Nothing about the birth of a legend, the GT Falcon.

No mention of the greatest car in Australian muscle car history, the GTHO phase 3, nothing. The fastest 4 door production car in the world at the time.

No mention of Dick Johnson and "The Rock", another legend born at Bathurst.

Very disappointing from that respect.

Well I did my bit for the blue oval, but at no time did I say my car was supercharged, but the old girl scrubbed up well, some great camera shots, I was pretty pleased.
They mentioned the Ph3 for about 1 minute in Ep2.

Was yours the yellow XC interceptor. It looked absolutely immaculate. I don't know why they claimed it was supercharged just cause the Mad Max interceptor was though.
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Old 31-10-2011, 01:58 PM   #95
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The Electric Car Lobbyist reckons once the IC engine driver is left standing at the lights they will soon switch to electric. Maybe but personally driving an IC engine car is about the total experience not just the acceleration. Take my 42 year old mustang....a stock VW Golf Diesel will probably leave me at the lights but I know what I'd rather be driving.......
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Old 31-10-2011, 02:05 PM   #96
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as Uncle Chop Chop would say... never let a load of BS get in the way of a good yarn... could have been much better... much better than nothing at all...
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Old 31-10-2011, 02:07 PM   #97
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Nothing about the birth of a legend, the GT Falcon.

No mention of the greatest car in Australian muscle car history, the GTHO phase 3, nothing. The fastest 4 door production car in the world at the time.

No mention of Dick Johnson and "The Rock", another legend born at Bathurst.

Very disappointing from that respect.

Well I did my bit for the blue oval, but at no time did I say my car was supercharged, but the old girl scrubbed up well, some great camera shots, I was pretty pleased.
Loved your XC, had to laugh about the SUPERCHARGED bit. I enjoyed the series but as it went on they seem to get the facts completly wrong. But at least they got to make GMH look like god, and of course Brocky, no mention of his pre decessor Lowndesy. Its like every thing, unless Holden is percieved as the aussie icon its not worth putting on.
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Old 31-10-2011, 02:07 PM   #98
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Nothing about the birth of a legend, the GT Falcon.

No mention of the greatest car in Australian muscle car history, the GTHO phase 3, nothing. The fastest 4 door production car in the world at the time.

No mention of Dick Johnson and "The Rock", another legend born at Bathurst.

Very disappointing from that respect.

Well I did my bit for the blue oval, but at no time did I say my car was supercharged, but the old girl scrubbed up well, some great camera shots, I was pretty pleased.
congrats on getting a feature.. the beasty looked fantastic..
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Old 31-10-2011, 02:15 PM   #99
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congrats on getting a feature.. the beasty looked fantastic..
Yes, thanks guys, (it was the yellow XC). I wouldn't let them look under the bonnet, not too special, needs a big tidy up and paint.
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The Electric Car Lobbyist reckons once the IC engine driver is left standing at the lights they will soon switch to electric. Maybe but personally driving an IC engine car is about the total experience not just the acceleration. Take my 42 year old mustang....a stock VW Golf Diesel will probably leave me at the lights but I know what I'd rather be driving.......
And the comment where he said all the good supercars coming out now are electric, then he can only name 2, the Audi E tron which is not due till 2013 and its based on an existing petrol R8, and its slower, and the Tesla Roadster which is I think going out of production to be replaced with the Tesla Type S, which is a sedan and not a supercar.

Bigtime fail.

Lets not mention the new Porsche 911, Ferrari 458, Lambo Aventador, McClaren MP4-12C etc, cars which would absolutely hose any electric car anywhere, anytime, anyplace.

Some of the supposed facts and opinions used in this series needed to be thouroughly checked over, something they failed to do, resulting in a load of inaccuracys and misguided opinions.
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Old 31-10-2011, 03:14 PM   #101
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Electric cars....fast yes....boring absolutely. If you can get past the first 30 seconds of this video then you are doing better than me....yawn!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwHO6sC7Lhs
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Old 31-10-2011, 07:20 PM   #102
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Anyone notice Colin Bond's comments on Mr Brock ?
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Old 31-10-2011, 07:26 PM   #103
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Bitterly disappointed at the final episode.... Holden holden holden.... breif mention of the P76! .. ho hum. Started well and then died a painful death that show.
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Old 31-10-2011, 07:27 PM   #104
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Anyone notice Colin Bond's comments on Mr Brock ?
yer they were a bit off the hook..

A. Moffat left a tear in me eye, he's still fairly chopped up about Brocky...
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Old 31-10-2011, 07:58 PM   #105
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Anyone notice Colin Bond's comments on Mr Brock ?
Certainly did - it was pretty hard to miss eh Buggerlugs!

Not much love lost there I don't think.
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Old 03-11-2011, 04:50 PM   #106
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I watched this series and have mixed feelings. The first episode was brilliant I thought, telling a lot of stories of some real pioneers, I particularly liked the stories of Francis Birtles, and Kew Garage.

From the second episode however it took a bit of an ugly turn, they missed 3 key moments in my book, They spoke about the beginnings of Bathurst, but didn't mention that the first 2 races were won by Harry Firth and Bob Jane in a Ford Cortina.

Secondly how the hell did they miss the XR GT, the first locally built V8, single headedly started the muscle car craze, although going by this production one would swear it was the Monaro (which was released 12 months after the GT)

Lastly, The Supercar scare. While they did mention it, they didn’t do it justice, and made out as if it was all Ford’s doing, If I remember correctly (not that I was there) there was a Falcon, Charger and Torana involved.

They had it so right at the start, but lacked balance towards the end.
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What did he say if you don't mind me asking (Can't recall this moment)
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Old 03-11-2011, 06:26 PM   #107
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What did he say if you don't mind me asking (Can't recall this moment)
Words to the effect that, he was a great driver, but an awful human being.
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Old 03-11-2011, 06:53 PM   #108
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Words to the effect that, he was a great driver, but an awful human being.
Thanks, Goes against the grain of pretty much everybody else on that show.
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He was the only one how had the guts to tell it the way it was. He said he was a pants man.
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Old 03-11-2011, 07:31 PM   #110
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It wasn't a bad series, but somhow managed to leave the impression that Ford is an evil global giant and Holden it the little aussie meat pie. It became to much of a brock/gmh fest as the series went on imo.
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Old 04-11-2011, 12:42 PM   #111
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I am thinking that some of us lot could get together and start a show on aussie cars and then maybe make the best car fanging movie ever.
Maybe something with a bit mad max type of cars with Trippytaka & pottery beige at the wheel and jim goose talking sh-- with old flappy riding an old bike swinging a chain etc.
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Old 04-11-2011, 01:10 PM   #112
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I just watched Mad Max 1 on the weekend and they certainly don't make films like thay anymore. It got me thinking all kinds of things. It was made for $300k back in the day.
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Old 06-11-2011, 11:59 PM   #113
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Words to the effect that, he was a great driver, but an awful human being.
Similar words about Steve Jobs from many who worked with him.

I guess that kind of drive in their career is what made them successful?

I enjoyed the series and it does show how much Australia and cars have changed over the years.

One thing that rang true is that driving is no longer as enjoyable as it once was and the quality of drivers has gone down hill dramatically.
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