Welcome to the Australian Ford Forums forum.

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and inserts advertising. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members, respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features without post based advertising banners. Registration is simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us.

Please Note: All new registrations go through a manual approval queue to keep spammers out. This is checked twice each day so there will be a delay before your registration is activated.

Go Back   Australian Ford Forums > MotorSport > Drag Racing

Drag Racing Discuss Drag Racing here be it dirt or tarmac. Sponsored by Sydney Dragway.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 08-09-2005, 11:29 PM   #1
T3rminator
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
T3rminator's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 6,932
Default How fast for an untuned BA XR8?

Just wondering what has been the fastest time recorded for a BA XR8 (ute or sedan) without a tune (flash or chip)?

__________________
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Rides (past and present)
Current: 2004 Ford Falcon 5.4L 3v Barra 220, Manual
Past: Mitsubishi Sigma (m), Toyota Seca (m), Toyota Seca SX (m), Toyota Vienta V6 (m), Toyota Soarer 4L v8 (a), BA XR8 ute (m), T3 TE50 (m), BMW Z4 (m)

AFF motto - If contrary views trigger, please use ignore button.
T3rminator is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 08-09-2005, 11:31 PM   #2
NC 5ltr
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
NC 5ltr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: newcastle
Posts: 689
Default

in motor they pulled a 13.99 in a 6 speed
__________________
QUOTE I hope your opinion of the rear end of the VE improves because you are going to be seeing a lot of it.QUOTE

QUOTE What makes you think I'm going to park behind a VE? I don't even attend the Sydney Gay Mardi Gras! QUOTE
NC 5ltr is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 08-09-2005, 11:34 PM   #3
T3rminator
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
T3rminator's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 6,932
Default

Jeepers... do you know if they made any mods or was it factory standard?

I heard motor got 14 flat for the 5 speed ba xr8 ute........ must be a super driver.
__________________
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Rides (past and present)
Current: 2004 Ford Falcon 5.4L 3v Barra 220, Manual
Past: Mitsubishi Sigma (m), Toyota Seca (m), Toyota Seca SX (m), Toyota Vienta V6 (m), Toyota Soarer 4L v8 (a), BA XR8 ute (m), T3 TE50 (m), BMW Z4 (m)

AFF motto - If contrary views trigger, please use ignore button.
T3rminator is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 09-09-2005, 05:22 AM   #4
Quadcams
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Quadcams's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Working, chasing after my daughter and working
Posts: 3,407
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by fullthrottle
Just wondering what has been the fastest time recorded for a BA XR8 (ute or sedan) without a tune (flash or chip)?
I think someone did a 13.8 at calder.
Quadcams is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 09-09-2005, 06:46 AM   #5
PhantomXR8
Now a FG XR8 in Nitro
 
PhantomXR8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Sydney
Posts: 550
Thumbs up Tuneless

Quote:
Originally Posted by fullthrottle
Just wondering what has been the fastest time recorded for a BA XR8 (ute or sedan) without a tune (flash or chip)?
I did a 13.7 just last Wednesday night. It was going to be atleast a 13.6 if not 13.5 except I missed the gear change to 4th.
__________________
Nitro XR8 6 Speed Manual - SS Inductions Growler, Herrod Headers John Bowe exhaust 0-60kph 2.46 secs
PhantomXR8 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 09-09-2005, 08:05 AM   #6
T3rminator
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
T3rminator's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 6,932
Default

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And that was without a tune? That is awesome.
That's the quickest I've heard of. Have you changed your diff? What mods have you done? Whats the secret? lol.
__________________
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Rides (past and present)
Current: 2004 Ford Falcon 5.4L 3v Barra 220, Manual
Past: Mitsubishi Sigma (m), Toyota Seca (m), Toyota Seca SX (m), Toyota Vienta V6 (m), Toyota Soarer 4L v8 (a), BA XR8 ute (m), T3 TE50 (m), BMW Z4 (m)

AFF motto - If contrary views trigger, please use ignore button.
T3rminator is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 09-09-2005, 10:55 AM   #7
PhantomXR8
Now a FG XR8 in Nitro
 
PhantomXR8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Sydney
Posts: 550
Default Wsid

Quote:
Originally Posted by fullthrottle
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And that was without a tune? That is awesome.
That's the quickest I've heard of. Have you changed your diff? What mods have you done? Whats the secret? lol.
Diff ratio is 3.46, Series 1 Herrod headers & single cats back exhaust and SS Inductions CAI with factory air filter. The tip is... keep the engine cool, around a quarter. Between runs keep the bonnet up, let out the hot air. If your temp gauge is around or just below a quarter she'll fly. A launch of about 2000rpm on Dunlops with 27psi in them should see you off nicely.
__________________
Nitro XR8 6 Speed Manual - SS Inductions Growler, Herrod Headers John Bowe exhaust 0-60kph 2.46 secs
PhantomXR8 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 09-09-2005, 11:25 AM   #8
T3rminator
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
T3rminator's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 6,932
Default

Do you change into 4th or do you let it ride out to the rev limiter on 3rd?

__________________
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Rides (past and present)
Current: 2004 Ford Falcon 5.4L 3v Barra 220, Manual
Past: Mitsubishi Sigma (m), Toyota Seca (m), Toyota Seca SX (m), Toyota Vienta V6 (m), Toyota Soarer 4L v8 (a), BA XR8 ute (m), T3 TE50 (m), BMW Z4 (m)

AFF motto - If contrary views trigger, please use ignore button.
T3rminator is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 09-09-2005, 11:50 AM   #9
PhantomXR8
Now a FG XR8 in Nitro
 
PhantomXR8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Sydney
Posts: 550
Thumbs up

Quote:
Originally Posted by fullthrottle
Do you change into 4th or do you let it ride out to the rev limiter on 3rd?

I need to go into 4th, the car does power on in 4th. When I did the 13.7 I missed the change, was rolling for atleast a second, hence a low mph. The car's good for a 13.6, there's no doubt, maybe a 13.5. I've just removed my mods to keep it relatively stock, so I don't want to get back into this ET chasing. I'd like to see what it's capable of with this setup and leave it at that.
__________________
Nitro XR8 6 Speed Manual - SS Inductions Growler, Herrod Headers John Bowe exhaust 0-60kph 2.46 secs
PhantomXR8 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 09-09-2005, 01:34 PM   #10
hot460
Regular Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 374
Thumbs up

I was racing next to PhantomXR8 on wed all night and we both run 13.7. Mine was with 103mph and Craig's should have been easy that but he dropped right back with the missed gear before the line and run his worst mph for the night @ 98. all the other passes were at 102-103. the purple beast flies!
Great stuff Craig. :eclipsee_
__________________
XA Coupe 545cub N/A 10.17@136.70 BP ultimate.
hot460 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 09-09-2005, 04:23 PM   #11
Quadcams
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Quadcams's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Working, chasing after my daughter and working
Posts: 3,407
Default

Yeh I was talking about a full stock XR8, Craig's(Phantom) car goes realy good with a factory tune. As you said Craig the more k's on these donks the better.
Quadcams is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 09-09-2005, 07:33 PM   #12
X ORSMXR
missing the panther
 
X ORSMXR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 1,464
Default

Hey guys the panther ran a 13.8 completly stock right down to the air cleaner and everything in the boot drove it staight of the street and ran it..
__________________
: : l prescribe you to get some BLUE POWER options on your PERFORMANCE vehicle ASAP. : :
X ORSMXR is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 09-09-2005, 07:56 PM   #13
Laminge
Cuban... nothing like it
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Watching in amusement
Posts: 11,643
Default

XA Coupe has run a 13.6

http://www.fordforums.com.au/member....tails&userid=2
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Laminge
...its amazing how mud sticks to ones shoes, as flies do to the elderly and bottle blondes around fame and fortune...
Laminge is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 09-09-2005, 08:02 PM   #14
PhantomXR8
Now a FG XR8 in Nitro
 
PhantomXR8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Sydney
Posts: 550
Thumbs up Stock

Quote:
Originally Posted by ORSMXR
Hey guys the panther ran a 13.8 completly stock right down to the air cleaner and everything in the boot drove it staight of the street and ran it..
Well, that's a great effort then!
__________________
Nitro XR8 6 Speed Manual - SS Inductions Growler, Herrod Headers John Bowe exhaust 0-60kph 2.46 secs
PhantomXR8 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 09-09-2005, 08:42 PM   #15
SpoolMan
Solution Was Boost 4?, 6 & 8
 
SpoolMan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 23,624
Chairman's Award: Chairman's Award - Issue reason: The exceptional contribution made to AFF events and sponsorship. Valued Contributor: For members whose non technical contributions are worthy of recognition. - Issue reason: Everything you do to help this place run smoothly! Technical Contributor: For members who share their technical expertise. - Issue reason: The awesome Technical and Service how to's in the FPV /XR6 /G6ET turbo threads..  and his own build threads that inspire people to have a go... enabling people to save money and realise the dream of working on their own cars as well. 
Default

Old Rays (OFR-CEO) BA XR8 Sedan, Rodderz Driving also went 13.6...
I am sure rodderz went 13.6 in his own ute before he had a chip...
__________________
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

AUTOTECH TUNED EDELEBROCK CHARGED
2017 GT Mustang Plenty of RWKW
SpoolMan is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 09-09-2005, 09:47 PM   #16
PhantomXR8
Now a FG XR8 in Nitro
 
PhantomXR8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Sydney
Posts: 550
Smile

Quote:
Originally Posted by XRFPV8
Old Rays (OFR-CEO) BA XR8 Sedan, Rodderz Driving also went 13.6...
I am sure rodderz went 13.6 in his own ute before he had a chip...
Hi Mark,
Yep, with an Old Fart at the wheel these stockers aren't bad hey!
__________________
Nitro XR8 6 Speed Manual - SS Inductions Growler, Herrod Headers John Bowe exhaust 0-60kph 2.46 secs
PhantomXR8 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 09-09-2005, 09:55 PM   #17
SpoolMan
Solution Was Boost 4?, 6 & 8
 
SpoolMan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 23,624
Chairman's Award: Chairman's Award - Issue reason: The exceptional contribution made to AFF events and sponsorship. Valued Contributor: For members whose non technical contributions are worthy of recognition. - Issue reason: Everything you do to help this place run smoothly! Technical Contributor: For members who share their technical expertise. - Issue reason: The awesome Technical and Service how to's in the FPV /XR6 /G6ET turbo threads..  and his own build threads that inspire people to have a go... enabling people to save money and realise the dream of working on their own cars as well. 
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by PhantomXR8
Hi Mark,
Yep, with an Old Fart at the wheel these stockers aren't bad hey!
Yes Craig, the manuals made all the early runnings good numbers, it seems so long ago...here we are ready for a new model in a few months...new toys for the boys...lol.. :
__________________
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

AUTOTECH TUNED EDELEBROCK CHARGED
2017 GT Mustang Plenty of RWKW
SpoolMan is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 10-09-2005, 07:01 PM   #18
Nik
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

at willow bank the other week there was one there dunno if it was mk1 or 2 but he was runnin around 14.7s with around 99 mph . it was doin 2.4 60 footers or somethin.it was a manual and it was wheel spinning in 2nd they must be a bugger to launch .
  Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 10-09-2005, 07:05 PM   #19
T3rminator
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
T3rminator's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 6,932
Default

Hmmmmm these 13.6 - 13.8 are very good times for an untuned BA XR8. Why am I so slow? lol
__________________
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Rides (past and present)
Current: 2004 Ford Falcon 5.4L 3v Barra 220, Manual
Past: Mitsubishi Sigma (m), Toyota Seca (m), Toyota Seca SX (m), Toyota Vienta V6 (m), Toyota Soarer 4L v8 (a), BA XR8 ute (m), T3 TE50 (m), BMW Z4 (m)

AFF motto - If contrary views trigger, please use ignore button.
T3rminator is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 10-09-2005, 07:12 PM   #20
jabba
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
jabba's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Is that your face, or did you neck throw up
Posts: 3,041
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nik
at willow bank the other week there was one there dunno if it was mk1 or 2 but he was runnin around 14.7s with around 99 mph . it was doin 2.4 60 footers or somethin.it was a manual and it was wheel spinning in 2nd they must be a bugger to launch .
Yes there are a bugger to launch with those 3.23s diff gears. The best I have done at willowbank is a 14.1 @ 97.2mph and that was my first ever 1/4 mile run.
__________________
Built by HERROD MOTORSPORT

Tuned by Elite Automotive

11.91 @ 117mph Vid
jabba is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 10-09-2005, 07:20 PM   #21
SpoolMan
Solution Was Boost 4?, 6 & 8
 
SpoolMan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 23,624
Chairman's Award: Chairman's Award - Issue reason: The exceptional contribution made to AFF events and sponsorship. Valued Contributor: For members whose non technical contributions are worthy of recognition. - Issue reason: Everything you do to help this place run smoothly! Technical Contributor: For members who share their technical expertise. - Issue reason: The awesome Technical and Service how to's in the FPV /XR6 /G6ET turbo threads..  and his own build threads that inspire people to have a go... enabling people to save money and realise the dream of working on their own cars as well. 
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by fullthrottle
Hmmmmm these 13.6 - 13.8 are very good times for an untuned BA XR8. Why am I so slow? lol
you need a HOT 60 foot time....1.8, 1.9..then the rest of the run must be spot-on, no hitting any limiters, makes it a little harder...
__________________
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

AUTOTECH TUNED EDELEBROCK CHARGED
2017 GT Mustang Plenty of RWKW
SpoolMan is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 10-09-2005, 07:30 PM   #22
rodderz
.
 
rodderz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Bundoora
Posts: 7,199
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by XRFPV8
Old Rays (OFR-CEO) BA XR8 Sedan, Rodderz Driving also went 13.6...
I am sure rodderz went 13.6 in his own ute before he had a chip...
Yes for a while there I couldnt match the time I got in Ray's sedan, he gave me the keys one night and I fluked a takeoff and run a 13.61 while got a 13.62 in mine, didnt hear the end of it either! :

After I got the chip I tried using better rubber and ever since the clutch has gone downhill, now it's at the stage where I havent driven it since Heathcote! I did gain 5mph and a 10th or so however with the chip, but with a better clutch it would be pretty close to Kev's 13.2 I reckon
rodderz is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 11-09-2005, 09:32 AM   #23
PhantomXR8
Now a FG XR8 in Nitro
 
PhantomXR8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Sydney
Posts: 550
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nik
at willow bank the other week there was one there dunno if it was mk1 or 2 but he was runnin around 14.7s with around 99 mph . it was doin 2.4 60 footers or somethin.it was a manual and it was wheel spinning in 2nd they must be a bugger to launch .
Bugger is not the word I had in mind.
__________________
Nitro XR8 6 Speed Manual - SS Inductions Growler, Herrod Headers John Bowe exhaust 0-60kph 2.46 secs
PhantomXR8 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 11-09-2005, 10:14 AM   #24
Chris
AFF.com.au
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 2,128
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by fullthrottle
Hmmmmm these 13.6 - 13.8 are very good times for an untuned BA XR8. Why am I so slow? lol
Its just practice dude. practice and have fun, the times will fall, if you get too frustrated the times will become more inconsistent.

there have been a few dead stockers, one blueprint ute who used to come out with us went a 13.79 with a 2.10 60 which was memorable - Jeff even with his worn out clutch can still rip a low 70 out when he needs to.

Best untuned auto's I have seen with std gears and converters are around the 14.1 - i havent seen a 13 sec stock auto 260 yet.....
Chris is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 11-09-2005, 11:40 AM   #25
OLS108
LS1 owner
 
OLS108's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Redcliffe ,QLD
Posts: 125
Default

I saw one of those BA DJR XR8's running 14.5's at willowbank on thursday ! how much power do they have it only ran like 100mph :
__________________
VX Berlina
OLS108 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 11-09-2005, 11:41 AM   #26
Quadcams
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Quadcams's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Working, chasing after my daughter and working
Posts: 3,407
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris
Its just practice dude. practice and have fun, the times will fall, if you get too frustrated the times will become more inconsistent.

there have been a few dead stockers, one blueprint ute who used to come out with us went a 13.79 with a 2.10 60 which was memorable - Jeff even with his worn out clutch can still rip a low 70 out when he needs to.

Best untuned auto's I have seen with std gears and converters are around the 14.1 - i havent seen a 13 sec stock auto 260 yet.....
Chris I saw a stock auto at WSID do a 13.9 2.1 60 it was a ex police car and a girl doing 14.2 the other night with 2.2 60.
Quadcams is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 12-09-2005, 04:42 PM   #27
highlander_69r
Starter Motor
 
highlander_69r's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 14
Default

i remember seein the same djr300 and many fpvs not hittin under 14s must need some driver ed up here
highlander_69r is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 15-09-2005, 07:36 PM   #28
jabba
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
jabba's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Is that your face, or did you neck throw up
Posts: 3,041
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by OLS108
I saw one of those BA DJR XR8's running 14.5's at willowbank on thursday ! how much power do they have it only ran like 100mph :
It's not that don't have the mumbo to get over the line in the 13's. It is that the driver is scared that they will blow the diff or cv joints... I saw an FPV GT(John turner and his GT has 300+rwkw) and a black DJR both blow there diff on the same morning at Willowbank. For John it was the 2nd blow out in 2 weeks. By the way both were manuals and the GT was launching at 1800rpm............
__________________
Built by HERROD MOTORSPORT

Tuned by Elite Automotive

11.91 @ 117mph Vid
jabba is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 15-09-2005, 09:06 PM   #29
X ORSMXR
missing the panther
 
X ORSMXR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 1,464
Default

Mate to be honest the DJR is an over priced XR8 and they don't really feel any different to drive power wise to a XR8.....
__________________
: : l prescribe you to get some BLUE POWER options on your PERFORMANCE vehicle ASAP. : :
X ORSMXR is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 20-09-2005, 07:30 PM   #30
BOSS 540
70 Mercury Eliminator
 
BOSS 540's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: NSW
Posts: 822
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by PhantomXR8
I did a 13.7 just last Wednesday night. It was going to be atleast a 13.6 if not 13.5 except I missed the gear change to 4th.
Good to hear the old girl still got it in her Craig, even w/out all the go fast bits. I didnt think it would be out for retirement yet...
__________________
The World is FORDS!
BOSS 540 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Reply


Forum Jump


All times are GMT +11. The time now is 10:05 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Other than what is legally copyrighted by the respective owners, this site is copyright www.fordforums.com.au
Positive SSL