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Old 29-05-2012, 06:37 PM   #1
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I have been speaking to a couple people about getting my tyre walls painted.

I have been told that doing this, the tyre is not roadworthy, due to the process of adding the paint to the tyre. I was told they shave the side wall of then tyre.

Can anyone tell me if getting your tyre walls done makes the tyre unroadworthy?

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Old 29-05-2012, 06:39 PM   #2
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why would you want to????????????????????
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why would you want to????????????????????
Because it looks cool and it his car


Yes...the side wall is ground away when walling a tire, so that the surface is even. They will defect you as the tire is "damaged" (not road worthy) and the load ratings are ground off.


But, like all things car related, don't be a dick and you wont get attention. There is tires that are more suited to walling aswell.
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Rule is, any damage/cutting to the sidewall deems the tyre unroadworthy.
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Old 29-05-2012, 07:12 PM   #5
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Default Re: Painted wall Tyres Legal?

On the other hand if there is a suitable space that allows painting without grinding away rubber, there would be no issue?
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Old 29-05-2012, 07:28 PM   #6
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On the other hand if there is a suitable space that allows painting without grinding away rubber, there would be no issue?

Nope...all fine then. Just a light scuff to help paint adhere then.
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You can buy them made that way in thin whites and wide whites no need to have them shaved

Or you can buy kits to paint them your self no shaving so it's not a problem
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Old 29-05-2012, 07:57 PM   #8
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You can buy them made that way in thin whites and wide whites no need to have them shaved

Or you can buy kits to paint them your self no shaving so it's not a problem

The problem is, some/most tires have alot of writing, logos or designs on them, and the walls look better on a flat surface.


There is one option, you could go rim skins...
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Antique tyres deal in white walls.

http://www.antiquetyres.com.au/tyres
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Old 29-05-2012, 08:34 PM   #10
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I have been speaking to a couple people about getting my tyre walls painted.

I have been told that doing this, the tyre is not roadworthy, due to the process of adding the paint to the tyre. I was told they shave the side wall of then tyre.

Can anyone tell me if getting your tyre walls done makes the tyre unroadworthy?
Unfortanately it is illegal.Go with some rimskins to get that redwall or whatever colour you desire effect.
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First I'd heard of white walls being illegal. Like it would stop me though...
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First I'd heard of white walls being illegal. Like it would stop me though...


Keep in mind they are not directly illegal but the methods used to apply them render the tire illegal.


You can buy wide whites, narrow whites, and GT style red walls that don't break the rules...
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Port a walls are also an option
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if the walls are cast with the tyre during the manufacturing process, this is LEGAL.

if the walls are painted on with the sidewall being etched, shaved, ground etc whether or not the load ratings have been ground off, this is ILLEGAL.

painting walls on without damaging the sidewall (just using some wax and grease remover to clean the surface), this is LEGAL.
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Keep in mind they are not directly illegal but the methods used to apply them render the tire illegal.


You can buy wide whites, narrow whites, and GT style red walls that don't break the rules...
Have you got tyre sizes or a web site????????
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diy

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or just go here

http://www.antiquetyres.com.au/
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Only for older cars though...

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One of the local Commodore heroes near my place has a good method of doing it. Grab yourself a can of white export and paint a ring-like line around the rim, being careful to paint the edge of your rim as you go, as well as not maintaining a hard outside line.

No shavings, no lost tire sizes or load ratings, just a white ring like line around your tire and some of your rim. Also cheap.
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I have been speaking to a couple people about getting my tyre walls painted.

I have been told that doing this, the tyre is not roadworthy, due to the process of adding the paint to the tyre. I was told they shave the side wall of then tyre.

Can anyone tell me if getting your tyre walls done makes the tyre unroadworthy?
Yep, mates car got taken off the road for it.
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john cains in newcastel does the muscle car thin walls in red etc
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Old 29-05-2012, 10:37 PM   #21
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Old 29-05-2012, 10:39 PM   #22
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Lately i have done a lot of research on this subject. I live just near antique tyres as well. They really only do narrow sizes for legal white walls so if you want a narrow tyre your set. But i needed something for my datsun which has wide rims. I got flappers AKA port a walls. They are stressfull as you live in constant fear you will damage them. But they are an easy alternative. You can also buy them so they look like narrow white walls. The really arent as great as i hoped.

But if you really want white walls my advice is for cost and legality get flappers.
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Old 29-05-2012, 10:40 PM   #23
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I like standing back and looking at my car after i use tire foam...
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Factory made white wall tyres are starting to come back into fashion, especially in the 14" range. A quick trip or phone call to your local tyre store is all you need to find out what is available....

Flappers are another good alternative.....Only problem is, they flap round in the breeze....hence the name....So good suggestion GSPECZL

Just to clarify rules about white walls....If the factory manufacturers the tyre with a white wall, it LEGAL......If it's put on after the tyre has been manufactured, it's ILLEGAL
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Take the deed to your house if you're planning a trip to antique tyre, should almost buy you a set of tyres there.
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Thanks every heaps of good advise. If I was going to do it, Would try and get tyres that came out like that.
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the prices I got for some odd sizes the other day wasnt obseen I didnt think cowboy
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There prices are probably not obscene but they are also not cheap. I like the guys there but when i ordered some chrome hubbies about 3 months back and they took until last week to arrive i wasnt pleased. i should have just got them online. But no not cowboy for sure.

I hope SVO Supporter that you a right because i cound find nothing for my 14 inch rims at all. beacause they a 7inch width nothing came close. I did a fairly comprehensive ring around and net search but prehaps popularity is climbing.
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Just to clarify rules about white walls....If the factory manufacturers the tyre with a white wall, it LEGAL......If it's put on after the tyre has been manufactured, it's ILLEGAL
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the prices I got for some odd sizes the other day wasnt obseen I didnt think cowboy
Maybe it was just my tyre size, they were for my 29 Pontiac. I ended up having a mate in the US buy them and ship them to me (same make and size of tyre), even after all costs they ended up less than half the price.
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